[crash_cohen]

Hey not sure where the best place to put this is but I have a buddy that wants to try mushies for the first time but not sure how much he should take for the first time.
I was thinking of giving him 2.5grams but not sure if thats to much or not as it has been awhile since the first time I took them.
I want him to have a good time and feel the effects but I also dont want to have him get pushed to far out of shape and have a bad time.
any suggestions welcome, thanks guys.

[taviddude]

2-2.5 grams will be good.

[SoonerShroom]

2.5 did nothing for me my first time, I say go with 3-3.5, but everyone is different. You want it to be a good trip though.

[Panduh 209]

Dude it really depends on what he wants. lol
my first time i took 6 grams. and had a blast.
But not everybody is prepared for intense sensory enhancement.
Most people have a really off expectation of mushies and psychedelics period
figure out how comfy he is with it. give him a couple grams and after a while
if he feels hes ok let him ride. if he wants more go from there.
Feel off his comfortability :)vibe with the dude

[abeatnik]

It depends on the on the strain. I did some a couple of years ago and 1 gram got me where it was fun and mildly psychedelic. I did some GT's that I grew and started with 1 gram and nothing happened.....nothing. A few weeks later I bumped the GT's to 1.75 grams and had a very mild buzz. Great pain relief, but not much of a trip. I might go to 2.5 to 2.75 next time. I would only suggest that you both have an idea what the potency of the shrooms you will be doing.

[tunch08]

if this is off you personal grow and you know the potency give him half of what gets you off. i wouldent let him get hung up on the idea of eating more and tripping harder. have something time consuming to do and let the mush do its thing until it hits him and the fun begins.what im trying to say is try not to let your friend sit around and wait for what he thinks shrooming is gonna feel like and everything should take care of its self. have fun

[Audiodidact]

Good advice Tunch! It's ALWAYS a good idea to start small. Some of us, including myself, felt the need to dive right in our first experience, but that's not neccesarily a good idea. I've come across more than one person who is very sensitive to mushrooms.

It can scar people for life. Enough said.

[crash_cohen]

ya I suppose it really does depend on the strain I know people say a cube is a cube, but for me I can usually tell a difference either on potency of effects. Depending on what I plan to go for I will take 2.5 for a light study so i think 2.5 should be ok for him. They will be GT, he has taken LSD before but when he was around 16 said he didnt like it but the story he gives me it was all because of setting, but I think the 2.5 should be a nice ride not to heavy but yet still get to see alittle of what it is all about.
Speaking of which what do you more experienced gents take for a heavy study? most I have done is four, thinking of trying 7 at some point.

[The Truth]

SoonerShroom, on 09 March 2010 - 08:38 PM, said:

2.5 did nothing for me my first time, I say go with 3-3.5, but everyone is different. You want it to be a good trip though.

Some people do not trip their first time. I am one of them.
I dosed and did not trip even a shred the first time.
A week later off the same shit it was a hit!

A few more I know have had the same experience (or lack thereof)
strange but true.

[Panduh 209]

Sure it was the same shit? The first time around?
I know quite a few people who for their first time took mushies random people gave them. Asking them what they looked like have all led me to believe that they didnt have what they thought. Its funny after giving them each what i know to be good and them then treating me like I opened up heaven to them

Crash, 7 is a nice deep dose if your ready for it. To me its not one of those should be walking amognst others type doses though. I perfer to lay in the darkness and comfortability of my own room and enjoy the ride. I feel there are different doses for different things its weird. Though everyone takes "tripping" at a differentt angle.

I like 1-2g for a nice enhancement smile thru the day kind of thing
2.5-3.5 for a nice flush of sensory play
and 4+ for mind exploration
Thats if I WERE TO EVER TAKE THEM... which i dont. haha

[dkkon1]

2.5 g is perfect imo. I think you're selling the experience short with any less than that. But i understand being more cautious.

[36fuckin5]

Honestly, I believe higher doses (to a point) to be more manageable than low doses. I find that when I eat less than an eighth (or the equivilant if its not normal Cubensis) I get a lot of anxiety, and kind of get stuck in an in-between phase.

I say give the guy 5 grams and be prepared to babysit if need be. Either he will love it or he isnt a psychedelic person. Better to have one really bad trip for 6 hours than 10 full of mediocre (with moments of intense) anxiety if he doesnt like it. If he does, then great. Either way, he is sure to learn something and will probably not regret it.

[dkkon1]

5gs! That would be an intense first time.

[36fuckin5]

Yeah, thats the point. Like I said, be prepared to babysit.

Also, I respect the fact that you neg repped me, although I speak from experience. +1.

Im a big advocate of throwing someone to the forces of Nature and letting them deal with it, no matter how hard it may be at the time. IME, they never regret it in the end, as long as you are a good trip-sitter, which amounts to being empathetic and working with them, not distracting them so they can ride it out. Use, not abuse. Think like a Shaman.

[dkkon1]

I didn't negg you bro. I don't ever negg anybody.

[36fuckin5]

Well, thats cool. Whoever did, thank you.

[NHMI]

Well i am with 36, I hate not tripping hard enough but not sober either, just like twitchy with a tight back and a permagrin and it drives me nuts...I would rather be rolling on the floor out of control looking at all the colors and touching my skin and everything else I see...lol....3.5g is the minimal dose for a cubie...anything less will just be a laughy body trip, with the exception of APE,PE,&PEU/other PE variants which has a more pan-like trip and can be darker... I had an experienced tripper tell me not to grow APE anymore cuz they are so strong they just aren't right...lol...he made me laugh...

[crash_cohen]

well I dont want to give hime to much, he said he has had acid before and didnt like it because it was too strong but I also think it had alot to do with his enviroment, that and he didnt like the length of it.

[Funkyfunguy]

I agree with depends on the strain. With GT's, 2.5 will not be a problem. I eat 3.5 GT's for a fun, not losing control, evening. However, I have had unknown strains before that after eating 1 or 2 g's, I wouldn't want to eat 3.5! I have also eaten around 10 g. of good mushrooms before, and completely lost my mind (and all control) for a few hours. It's a neat experinece, but not for a first timer IMO.

[Aztek]

My first trip was on Psilocybe Finaticus out the back of high times 1995.

I didn't wheigh but would imagine it was 5 fresh grams

I was laid out in a field,trees waiving, clouds flying by.

I fasted and was by my self too tho..

Fasting 24 hours helps u could go 12 tho